TWOETT - S03E4 "From Green Dreams to AI Schemes: Laughter, Lessons, and Life at the Table"

Topics of Discussion:

1. Transitioning to Sustainable Energy: The hosts discuss the challenges of shifting to greener energy while balancing economic growth and job retention. Andy champions a pragmatic approach, highlighting the unintended consequences of rushing to shut down coal plants without proper infrastructure in place. Leah and Dean emphasize the importance of planning and gradual transitions, with humorous asides about EV technology, solar power myths, and bureaucratic roadblocks. The conversation balances practical insights with playful banter, such as Andy’s commentary on conspiracy theories surrounding hydrogen fuel innovations.
2. Automation and AI in the Workplace: The hosts explore the implications of AI and automation, from its potential to replace human jobs to its ethical dilemmas. Leah shares her concerns about deepfake technology and its misuse, while Andy and Dean marvel at how quickly AI has turned science fiction into reality. From automated lawnmowers to the unnerving possibilities of cloned humans, the segment raises serious questions laced with humor and speculative musings.
3. Quickfire Questions:
   • Worst Jobs: The group recalls laborious teenage jobs like picking asparagus and strawberries, with vivid (and sometimes painful) memories of bending, blisters, and awkward first experiences.
   • Ridiculous Costumes: Lighthearted reminiscing about their most absurd outfits leads to a playful back-and-forth of outrageous tales.
   • Annoying Habits They’d Make Illegal: Suggestions range from chewing with your mouth open to overusing phrases like “If you know, you know,” with Andy contemplating throat-punching violators (in jest, of course).
   • Faking Laughter: The hosts admit to polite fake laughs to spare others’ feelings, with Andy sharing his experiences as a comedian enduring well-meaning but cringe-worthy joke-telling by fans.
4. Comedy and Politeness: Andy discusses the nuances of being a stand-up comedian, including the pressure of the first laugh to set the tone of a performance. The group reflects on New Zealanders’ politeness, which often leads to enduring awkward conversations or bad jokes rather than hurting someone’s feelings.

Host: Leah Panapa
Costhost: Dean Morris
Addition host: Andrew Clay
Addition host: Glen Levy
Producer: Mike Nesbitt

The youtube video version is available from the channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWrongEndoftheTable

Transcript

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Welcome to the Wrong End of the Table Podcast with me, Leah Parnipa, Dean Morris and Andy Clay. Why the wrong end of the table? Well, Magic Mike pointed out that why am I sitting at the wrong end of the table? That's where he has to be. And the name was Paul. So we chat, we talk about some of the big stories, the smaller stories and we just have a good time and we hope you enjoy it. Welcome to another episode of Wrong End of the Table. It's so great to have you guys here. I'm Leah Parnipa. This is Dean Morris. This is the one and only Andy Clay. And we've got to say thanks too to the best spot, Fangaparoua, because boy, they've given us this vodka that... I'll take it from here, Leah. Could you take it from here? This vodka, it may change your life. It's toffee flavored vodka and it's liquid joy. It's so good. It's almost too good. It's very nice. It's that good you're drinking with just ice. Not even the mixer. But look, drink responsibly. Drink responsibly. But when you do drink responsibly... This is a good spot. First of all, shut your face. Secondly, drink thunder, toffee flavored vodka spirit drink because it's very nice. Very nice. It's very nice. We are going to talk about some subjects as well. Are we? Magic Mike is here. Good looking. Hot as ever. Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. Are you going to sleep with him tonight? No. Okay. Who's question please? Magic Mike. Okay. How can we transition to sustainable energy systems while ensuring economic growth and job creation? Okay, now we have half a bottle of thunder and you throw that question at us. I mean, that's a very, very grown up question. It's a very good question actually. That would have... In my short time on this podcast, that would be actually one of the better questions you've ever asked, Magic Mike. Because it's... No, no, no. Seriously, because you don't want to lose jobs and people transitioning from fossil fuels and all the rest of it. Where anyone who's not mental knows that we have to go to a greener fuel system. But not full green. Well, not straight away because you don't want to lose... Correct. And maybe not full green because your competition is good. Yeah. We'd like to mark it. So the answer to this question, Magic Mike, is I don't know. But I love that you said that. I don't know. But it's something that does need to be done in a considered manner because shutting down... I mean, the one... And I'm left leaning, if those of you don't know, I am left leaning. But, you know, I don't know if this is true or not, but I believe it is. They shut down some coal factories in the South Island, whatever, and put people out of work, which is not a great consequence. Coal mines, yep. Coal mines. And then they went, oh, we still don't have enough fuel to fuel the electricity and stuff. And they didn't bring dirty coal. From Indonesia. From Indonesia. Yep. Makes perfect sense. Dirtier. Or the cost of travelling, which is also bad for the environment. Not least of which, of course, they're probably the worst working conditions for the locals within our... You know, all these bad reasons. In our... I am totally pro-green, but in our rush to do it, we need to do it in a considered sustainable manner to end up being sustainable. Eventually, however many years down the track, it should almost be totally renewable. I mean, it's more than 90% renewable, but it has to be done in a considered fashion and not in a way that's actually going to hurt the environment and hurt jobs if we don't do it properly. Yeah. And that was actually pulled in by the left government. That's true. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they've been doing it in their health. It's just... Problem is, and I'm with you, I think that we do need to look at other ways, but until we can not get blackouts in winter, which is what we're getting in New Zealand, and we don't have... We're not producing enough power, we have to keep mining. We have to use fossil fuels, but we also still have... We're bringing in green sustainability, but it's a real balance. All about timing, eh? All about timing. And I think we're... Or is it timing? Sorry, Jay. Keep going. Timing. I think we're still a way off getting it even semi-right, because as you say, we're doing this action, but they're not thinking of the action here that that creates. And that's only... It takes a longer time for people to sit down and go, "Hold it. Let's work this out," and go, "Well, all the EVs, is it really economical to have all the charging stations that don't really... Well, I don't know, yeah. And other batteries causing... We don't have enough power to even run all the EV chargers. Yeah, that's right. And other batteries sourced ethically and environmentally friendly in Africa, because it's the whole world we're talking about here, not just New Zealand. And the EV is still 10 years off where it needs to be. Like, in technology. I was talking to someone I knew whose job it is to advise governments and companies about being green. And she said, and this is just one person. This was two or three years ago too, by the way. Don't buy EV yet, buy hybrid, because they haven't perfected the technology yet. That's someone who's very green. Yeah. And again, that's only... And that was three years ago or so, so that might have changed even now. But interesting to get that perspective. The other one is solar power, which I think should be used far more. Apparently there's... Oh. Like we could... You know, on individual houses and stuff. Totally untacked. We would love solar. It should be... Every new house should be... Totally untacked. Totally unsold. Every new house should have solar. Yeah, 100%. So expensive though. No, it's not. Not a mess, it's not. It's a mess. But what if you were to... As you say, every new house had solar power, and then you should be able to give back to the grid. So if you gave it back to the grid, then you're not going to have these power cards that be like... And power bills. So it's like slightly going not off the grid, but you're helping yourself to be self-sustained. Yeah, yeah. It's a thing. Interesting. See? There's too many roadblocks in... Urocracy and render. Yeah. And the power companies are all... So they make it expensive, because it's like the oil companies. Water powered cars invented 20 years ago. Yeah. Hydrogen, eh? Hydrogen's the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. They perfect that. That guy's dead. What are you saying? He went missing. He was in jail. Oh, for goodness sake. He invented it in jail, got out of jail. Hello. Gone missing. And there's a whole bad vibe about hydrogen stuff, for those who remember 1937, and I'm sure you would. When the Hindenburg, which was Huygens power. Oh, yeah. That's unfair, because he was only five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not gonna work it down there. But I have slight... But we know humanity, for all its flaws, has some genius minds in there. Yeah. And actually, to make myself better sometimes, I'll go online and look at... Things in Europe, when they're doing all these amazing things in Europe, because they're quite pragmatic over there, the Germans and stuff. They'll be, "We need to get more green." And they do it in that accident. Sorry, how does it go? They must get more green. And they're doing stuff, you know, like, but the whole world needs to know about it. And especially the big powers like America and China. Well, I was just about to say, you've got America, India, China, who don't give a crap about the, you know, green or environment. If all the scientists put their heads together in every country and went, "Right, how are we going to resolve this new energy crisis?" That'd be able to solve it pretty quickly. Pretty quickly. Yeah, thanks. The will. The will of the people. All you need is the will. Magic Mike. Second question, please. If you're... We just solve that problem. We just solve that problem. We just solve it. Boom! I'm feeling... Come on people, listen to us. Vote me in. I'm feeling good. Vote me in? Why aren't we in, like, government? Because I don't want to be hated by half the population. Exactly. That's a good point. Okay, okay. Second question. What does the future of work look like in a world increasingly dominated by automation and AI? Oh, AI part of me really admires it, and a part of me doesn't understand it. And then there's another part of me. There's lots of parts of me. You're multifaceted. I'm multifaceted. That's scared of it. Yep. And in my industry, and Magic Mike has showed me this, that he took a recording of my voice for those, for our viewers, listeners. I also do a radio show I have done for 30 odd years, and I know I look so young. But you took a recording, didn't you, Magic Mike? And then put it through AI. And put it on someone else. And it made it just unintelligent? I sounded so inclement. No, that should... No, literally, he put in like a topic, used my voice, and it sounded like I was doing a show. And I went, was I talking about that? He goes, no, this is AI. See, that's scary. Using your voice. And that part really consumes me. It's scary because, say you were a public figure, political figure. Say you were Trump, a bigger one, or opposition. You could say, here's what they said, here's the vision, and they didn't say it all. Yeah, yeah, and they do all those terrible things. I mean, it is genius. You know what it is? When we were growing up, and we're all of a similar vintage, this is science fiction. It's science fiction. It's coming to life. It's come to life. Those of you watching, listening to this, who grew up, like we did in the 70s and 80s and into the 90s, this is fantasy. Yeah, this is absolutely fantasy, but it's coming to life. Yeah, 100%. And the kids, though, go, I know no different. They know no different. When you look at your 90-year-old grandmother who's seen the telephone invented in airplanes and all of that. Actually, yeah, I know exactly what I'm saying. And then now us, we're coming through and we're seeing berserk, isn't it? And the rate of technology is going to only be seen as... I think the last 20 or 30 years, there's been another surge of technology. It's gone exponentially. Oh, not even... But, I mean, like, AI, there's obviously the good where you could put a drone up in the air and go over and... Well, they fight wars with them now, don't they? Well, yeah, that's not the good bit. Well, I mean, no, they can send in a drone or a robot or they've been sending in people. They can laser point a building and send the coordinates back to the... Yeah. I mean, there are obviously some amazing positives. But the positive side is, like, aid parcels with drones, dropping them over and dropping them in certain areas. And this is where, I mean, people say, we don't like government, but this is where you need regulation and very, very quick regulation because this is a whole fluid situation to deal with all these different things, cloning and AI and all these things, because it's changing because there's some very good things that can happen, stem cell research, but some very bad things as well. And I think anti-governments can't keep up. Well, they're battling too. I mean, you know, we've talked before that I work in a school and they're talking about AI and... Oh, yeah, how do you use it? You know, well, I mean, I don't really know, to be honest with you, it's happening so fast. And like, you know, kids doing their, you know, like doing assignments and stuff like that and... Chat GTP? Yeah, yeah, all those kinds of things. Written before them? Yeah, 100%. And also the version where you can actually put in a theme of a picture you want and within seconds it comes up with that image. Oh, look. You could say old lady walking down the street and it's initially past a... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can put it down. The thing I'm worried about, and you mentioned it, you touched on it, I think it was you, Andy, about the deep fake, right? Yeah. So you're going to have a president standing up saying, you know, I want a war with Russia. Let's just say, but it's a deep fake, it's AI. This is what... Yeah. That's a bit I'm concerned about. So back a few years ago, it was mocked up photos. Yeah. It wasn't really them, but it had Prince William with a prostitute, but it wasn't really a real picture. No, I think that was real. It was real. Harry. It was Harry. Oh, yeah, Harry. Now it's far more believable stuff because they're talking, you know, their voice or whatever. Like here's a recording of Leah Parnipa saying that someone's heard the government. No, I see that too on my show. Can you imagine what is happening behind the scenes in all the labs and stuff that we don't even know about yet? I don't know about this. That we'll get in five years' time. Have you seen the footage of... I've seen this funny little conspiracy. No, no. I guarantee you there is a human out there that's in a lab that has been half AI, half human. David Morris. Robocop. Robocop. Robocop. How many fictional stories from, you know, yesteryear have actually been prophetic that have actually come to life? That's what I'm talking about. You know, there was Isaac Asman off in the early 70s going, we're all going to have a personal computer. We're going to walk around in a few years' time or whatever in the 70s. Well, here we are. Yeah. You know? Did you see that? The James Bond moonraker, which was in the 70s and the design of those spacecrafts ended up being... Being a design? Yeah. They're a design. Yeah. Or even Star Trek, when you like, there's the video screen by the door. You went, boom, you know, and you come up and you think, that's crazy. They're talking to a video screen by the door. And now it's just commonplace. There was science fiction. As the door was, went, whoa. Yeah, my front door's like that. It was science fiction. Now it's science fact. Yeah. And in our lifetimes, and as you said before, my grandmother's passed away now, but was born in 1915. She died in 2004. She went from horse and cart in London. In London to spaceships. To the internet. To the internet. Yep. And people in that lifespan would be going, oh my God, I can't believe that. Hey, so can I invent another question? Because invent another question. This is where you go on and on, right? Right. Okay. On that, if you could think about something that's been invented in a lab. Yes. That is completely far fetched. What do you think it would be? Oh, it's gone straight to. Oh, oh, Crocs. Crocs that talk. Nobody will ever wear them. They did. They did. They did. I don't know about far fetched. I don't. You obviously got something in your head. This is how things are invented. People sit around the table and go, well, what are we going to do? No, they don't think they do. I think where they go. Isn't it an assessor too that they invent something? You know, they go, let's, we need to solve that problem. And sometimes they, oh, that actually works for that. I mean, the classic one, this is going to sound super weird. Ready? Three, two, one. Viagra. Viagra was a medication for heart conditions, right? And they would give it to old men who are going to be having heart attacks. And then realise that they go to the baby room at the same time. So I mean, I think a lot of this technology comes around. Medicine's been around a lot. Medicine's been around a lot. And I think the technology is, and it's that Jim Miracoy song, useless twistings of our new technology. Right because it's, it's almost, that almost sounded like it. Twistings. Twistings. Because we've got this thing that's made for something. So if you do AI and all these other things that we could really use for just the positive things, stem cell research, just for the positive things, there'd be no problem. But it's when you go, well, the perversion of that technology is what we have to worry about. Which we're always going to get. How far, how long do you think it's going to be before we have our own AI robots in our houses doing housework? 10 years. Have you met Magic Mike? He's not real. I'm a machine. He's a machine, baby. There's, there's, I work at a school in our, in our fields. And some mode by a, on the end, I'm going to know it's only mowing, but unmanned. No way. They put the coordinates in of the field and it just mows it. Like those robo. That's what they do on the side of the motorways. Yeah. They got those big automated. Oh man, I tell jokes for a living. There'll be someone like, why did the chicken crusty roll? Why did that? To get to the other side. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. My mother-in-law is so fat. How fat is she? When she sits around the house, she sits around the house. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Right. Let's have some quick questions. They got the dis, vote of disapproval from magic Mike. Magic Mike is. All right. Quick fire round. Star Trek. That is a lot of jeez. What do you think Star Trek? That's from a Western. Oh, is it? Yeah, but that's how the old lasers sounded, didn't they? No. Oh no, that's a, that's all ricochet. Are you, are someone, are you high? Oh my God. Let's go. Come on, Leah. Sorry. No, no. There was a repeat. Half a bowl of thunder's gone. There was a repeat. You can't do that. I have to edit that out because it was a repeat. Yes. Okay. Talk to me. Go. What's, what's the worst job you've ever had and why? I once made a school, it was really good. I went to a school job, worked in the factory, which made me work out that I didn't want to work in the factory, which is a very good thing for a kid to find out at high school. And I used to put perfume in the talcum powder and the drop of mangeri. It wasn't the worst job. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah. Is it a liquid? So they put the other liquid in your mix and I used to mix it all up. Oh, I love talcum powder. And what I did one time was about a massive big barrel of it. Yeah. And I dropped it down and it went poof in my face and my eyes were caked with it. Oh, and I couldn't, and I was embarrassed because I was just like 15 years old Hollywood. And I had to stumble my way to the bathroom and scrape off on my eyeballs that are just stuck to it because I dropped the body like dropped it that far, but it's all real. It's just my face and my eyes are open at the time. Can't see a thing. So it wasn't really the worst job. I would say it's pretty bad. No, but it's not good. My eyeballs smell great. I like, I like talcum powder. Gosh, remember the smell of talc? I like to, I like a little after the shower, a little little pop on Magic Mike's butt butt. Put it under your, put it under your balls. He likes just a little bit of. Butt butt. Could you be, could you be less masculine right now on your butt butt? I just. Give it time. Answer the question. Just a little. What's your worst job? There was, there was. Not killing this one. Human. I, I used to pick asparagus in my school, school and the holidays when I was still at school, my dad got me these jobs in Hawkes Bay. Nowadays it's done by machinery, which of course everything does. Back in ye olde day, you had to bend over with a knife and you're not allowed to snap and you're not allowed to soar. It has to be a clean hit, right? So blisters and after I'd gone down 30 rows and you try to stay like the bending, right? Like you found like. Finded strawberries, the same thing. It is a. Hemis, I've gone. Hemis are gone, your backside's gone. Like you understand. And I was a, I was a fit 14 year old, like a, like a life. Was that a word? Yes, it is now. And I stand. Thank you. We've got our own dictionary here. I still was like, oh, and then I got home and I was literally second hours in tears. I said, I can't do this. This is like the most ridiculous job I've ever had. Do you know what my dad made me do though? I said, dad, I just can't pick this. It's too bad. So he made me pick apples. So I picked apples, which was still quite hard. Um, I, as a youngster, probably a 15, maybe in school holidays, I used to strip all the, uh, okay. Next question. Not just, not just a bad job for you, mate. People watching. It looks like a schoolboy. Oh, look at that. That's a good one. It's like a schoolboy. Oh, look at those gingery peels. Yeah. Well, I'm only 15. So what are you doing? Um, I used to, there's all this gunky tape around these gas lines and, uh, so the plucks are coming. I used to have to cut them off and peel all off and yeah, that was nasty. Um, all right. Second question. I've only done, I've done, yeah. I feel like that was your second question. Was it? No. Is it? No. Well, she's got 15 things on there. Trust you, your media. I don't. Yeah. Um, go on. Just do it. What's the most ridiculous thing you've dressed up as? Ah, next question. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he doesn't want to go into that. If you could, if you could, yeah, if you could erase one song from history, what would it be? She was every single Liam Gallagher song. You're a muppet. Wow. Okay. Baby. All of it. Oh, I kind of wonder why it's done like him. Uh, baby. That's a good one. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, crazy. Basically anything that goes, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, not just that one song, the whole genre. Actually I'm with you on that. I don't like that. Although I did kind of get into it. Just then, oh, oh, crazy frog. How about, how about, yes. It's me. It's the song. Um, which I quite like that song. Any song that starts off with an eighties or seventies hit that you love and then suddenly goes into the rack, breaks your heart. Yes. You go, this is going to be this one. I'm coming. No. I want the lock. I speak. That's a classic one too, right? One of the greatest rocks on the board time with David Bowie and Queen and, you know, ruined. Ruined. Ruined. I want to be honest. There's so many. So many. Magic Mike's a music buff. You are a music buff, Mike. You are a music buff, Mike. It's a mix buff. Is there anything you'd like to erase? You shouldn't, like, music, erasing music is like burning books, aren't you? Yeah. You're kind of right. You're kind of right. One man's meets another man's poison, right? Oh, well done. You know, if you don't like it, you don't listen to it. Yeah. No, I actually do agree. I agree with that, except for Liam Gulligan. There's always exceptions, mate. Well, well saved, Magic Mike. No, but that's actually true, too. Yeah, it's like burning books. Yeah. Have you ever spooked someone by something? Have you ever been spooked by something completely ridiculous? No. No, that's good. No, that's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. Okay. Okay. This is how we work. Yeah. We roll. We can't do that with one of them. What's the worst excuse you've ever used to cancel plans or get out of work? Oh, you're dead. You died. I actually have a really embarrassing one. Go on then. And I'm not proud of this. Well, there's lots of stuff you're not proud of. I am. We might as well start the list now. Yeah. So it's work or plans or something. So normally if I want to get out of plans, like I forgot. Just remember all your friends are going to hear this. Your questions next. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So what I do is I double, I'm very bad at double booking myself. So I will say that I've got, I've gone yesterday and I forget about it. And then two weeks later, oh, so you're coming around. Oh gosh. And then we've got something else going. A diary. So I do tend to throw my husband under the bus and say he's not well or he's pooing through the eye of the needle. I've put too much chocolate powder on his bum. I've over-talped his butt, but we can't come out. And I, this is terrible. This is so terrible. Do it. Do it. So I didn't want to go to work one day and I was, and I was, and I thought, what do I, what do I do? And I rang my boss. What registration is this? And I used a no, no. I can't tell you because then it's really going to matter. And I basically used the, um, not the death of a relative, but my dad hadn't been very well, but it was like about two weeks earlier. It had a bit of a problem. And I basically said it was the night before and that my dad had been rushed to hospital. I know. I'm not sure if I can work with you anymore. I know. It's terrible. That's pretty bad. I said it was. Maybe just do the show between us. Can I catch up with you after the, And my boss was so lovely. And even when, even when it did, it did. And he was like, Leah, whatever you need. Do you need to go see him? And I was like, no, I haven't seen him for three years. I guess actually, uh, I might need a few days off. And he knows me really well. And I literally had not seen him for three years. Yeah. I will burn in hell for it. Yeah. You will. So, but I got the day off anyway. That was the whole thing. At least you got the day off. Yeah. At least you got the day off. Um, is it Dino's turn or have we got the turn off? I think, um, uh, yeah, to be fair, I didn't ever meet days off work cause I was pretty, pretty conscious. Yeah. Oh, sorry. I was a genuine show up and go. I'm gonna turn up and go, but I still turn up. Yeah. Um, like even, even times when I was madly hung over in my youth, I would still turn up. Yeah. I would, I would, I would probably throw up at work and get sent home. Okay. So say we double, you double booked, right? So you're supposed to be here. I've done that. I've done that. How have you gotten out of there? Okay. So do you blame or what do you say? Um, I, I just say, Hey look, I'm not feeling up to coming out or, or, um, it's just kind of true. Yeah. I just, I just thought, Hey look, I'll have to postpone tonight. I don't really give a reason. I just go, Hey look, I can't postpone tonight. Oh my gosh. I've got to start telling the truth, Andy. This doesn't feel right to me because then what happens if you go, Oh, San so sick and then you forget. And then a week later you go, Oh, how was it? What the f*** they find? Oh, I mean, uh, I'm not, I'm not, when I sound like holier than now, I'm, I, I'm really bad at lying. I don't like lying. And so I find it really hard to come up with an excuse. Yeah. I mean, it's a good thing to know because I'll tell you the truth. I'm sure, I'm sure of, again, once I finished this podcast, I'll think, Oh yeah, there was that time I did that, but I really struggled with, you know, like fudging stuff, you know, too much. Like, I don't. I probably have expanded on stuff like a little bit like you to, to make something seem something a little bit, a little bit, but there's some things you just don't want to go to. Yeah. That, that, that's right. Don't do, I've got a rule for everybody there. Don't do things out of obligation because it will always be a pain in the ass. And you know what? And that's, that's, that's the wisdom that comes with age, right? Because when you're younger, you go, Oh, do it. And then you get, I go, no, no, I don't, my time is precious. Like if I don't want to go out, I've got a little 10 number, I've got a number of days on this earth and I will waste it. Yeah. I mean, unless that's really, really important to someone that's that is really, really important to you. Correct. Correct. And then you'll go. But, but for the most part, it's like, no, I'm pointing Andrew Clay. Thank you. No, you've done yours. What are you on about? No, you've done two. No, I was passing it to Dino. Oh, Andrew. Have you done that? No, I've done none. How many has he done? Magic mind. It's blurring into you go. I don't know. There we go. Have I done mine? No. Yes. Oh, yes. Who asked the questions? He didn't. You go, Mike. If you could make one annoying habit illegal, what would it be? One annoying habit illegal. Of your own or some other thing? Anything that pisses you off about anyone else or annoying habit. Well, it's like little sayings or anything. Little sayings annoy me. It's like habit, isn't it? 100 percent. Yeah, like someone going, if you know, you know. I mean, I've used it and then I look at myself and I go, you're a dick. I hear people say it and I want to punch them in the throat. Yeah. How quiet. If you know, you know. But I've used it myself, to be honest. That's annoying. I would. I would. Eating with your mouth open. Oh, that's that's a very good. You've got this thing. Oh, look at you. You don't like the noise of it. You don't like actually eating with your mouth open is horrible. That's yeah. But you don't like. Oh, but there's a combo trying to or trying to or trying to someone trying to talk while they're eating their food and they're on a conversation. Their mouth is open is lasagna. Stop. I mean, I mean, the annoying habit that I'd like to get it was people like trying to talk while I'm talking. Sorry, well, it's only in any way. So maybe what we should be doing is number two. Sorry, what was that, Andrew? And then I think that, yeah, I think you should be. But I love how you put your glasses on. Look at this. He can't. You look smarter. This just happened. He does. Have you ever faked laughing at someone's total avoiding their feelings? At every age you play gig. Oh, come on, Tim. That's a cheap shot. That is cheap. You know, he threw up a lob and you smashed it at me. I have, though, and it's usually someone that's happened quite recently. And it was actually quite a good joke, but it's a joke that I'd heard before. And you should go, I've heard it, but you don't. You let them think. And you know the punch line. And it was one that was quite a good joke, actually. I can't remember what the joke was. I go, that's actually quite a good joke. But I should have gone, no, mate, we're done. I know that one. But you let them finish it. Was it a one on one thing? Was that a gig? No, no, it was a bit of a, it was two of us. It was in a football environment. The coach, that was very funny. Have you heard the one about, and I'm thinking, yes, I have, but I'll let you finish, mate. Yeah, yeah. And it was a good joke, so I did laugh at it. But I upped the volume on the laugh more than it would have been if I had it for the first time. In that situation, it's a polite thing to let the coach tell us. And as I said, it was a good joke, too. And then you go, oh, yeah, that's a good one. No. So, hey, I've heard it, but that's a good one. I think in that situation, most of us, most of us want to not make the person feel bad, right? So whatever they're saying, if anyone else is like, there'll be moments at work. I remember there's work, I've worked with people that think they're super funny. I can't hear you. And everything they say wants to get a laugh. Wow. He is still at the table here. I know. So you just go, oh, I love it. You know, you've got to. It's a polite thing. But now we know you lie. So. Well, I tell some big poor kids, obviously, and laughing is one of them. Yeah. No, but there are ones and it's, yeah, I find. OK, so I've been a comedian for 35 years and what happened? I don't socialize as much. It seems way longer. And people bizarrely, when you finished like the 40 minutes set on stage and you've just finished and come out to the bar and the venue because it's what happens in New Zealand. I've got a joke for you and I'm going, oh, do they? They still try to do it. It hasn't happened as much recently because I don't socialize as much recently as much out these days. You just leave. Because I'm old, right? But when I was younger, people go, I've got this joke for you, you can use this. Oh, yeah. OK, mate. Yeah. Let me get my notebook. I have to sit through this really bad telling, half drunk, bad telling of a joke that I already know that I'm not going to use on stage because you just watch me for half an hour, mate. And you're not a joke teller. And I never told a joke, you know, in Vidicom before I'm a rank or two. Yeah. And but you have to sit there and you can't go, shut the fuck up, mate. Well, you could. You can't do it. But you can't. Oh, that's good. That's a good one, mate. That's a good one. Yeah. So because you've just got to give them their moment. Because to them, I've for that moment, I've been the star of the show or whatever. Yeah. And they don't know when the judgment is blurred and they're a little bit excited about ringing someone they just saw on stage face to face and all the rest of it. So I've done that many times over the years, many, many times, not so much in recent years because I just tend to go home. Just go home. Yeah. Yeah. Just quickly to wrap it up about being on stage. And I think we've talked about this before. When you first, you know, grab the mic and start talking, do you wait for that? Do you do you feel nervous or is it that first laugh? So you've got to wait for that first laugh. So I don't feel it depends on the venue. So what what calms you from being nervous is familiarity. And I've been doing it for nearly 35 years. So I'm familiar. So it's a venue that I've done before. I don't tend to be really nervous at all. I'll be a little excited, but not nervous. But if it's in a venue that I'm unfamiliar with or in a country or in a city that I'm unfamiliar with, I'll be a little bit more nervous. But whatever the situation, that first laugh is definitely the one that makes you go. We're good. We're good. We're all good. The first laugh. And I don't tell one liners, but I do have a few one liners up my sleeve just to get that first laugh. Yeah, just to get. My own one's my own one liners. But be like, I mean, obviously one these days is I know it's going to ruin it for you when it comes to see me do stand up. But I go, you know, life's been tough the last few years, but I can't complain. You know, life's pretty good for me. I've got a waterfront property. Well, it's not yet, but it will be. What do we do? Yeah, exactly. So like this kind of a joke. Yeah. And that's and so if you come and see me live, you'll be hearing that one. But but it's not most of my stand ups not like that. But I do that because it's a quick set up and a punch line. And everyone relaxes because they go, oh, he's funny. I relax. I've heard him laugh and then they're away. So yeah, because I think I think sometimes if you're in a social setting and you're mingling and whatnot and people get into those groups and and there's just someone that is just talking absolute bullshit. Everyone else is laughing and you're just going, I just need to escape this year. And then you're okay because you can walk away and go to another group. But I think I think Kiwis are just to put well, we're polite. We're very polite. So we're polite. So we'll go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's the lovely thing about us, but also a bad thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys, I think we've we've exhausted that. Yeah. Thank you so much. Polite laughing. Thank you very much. I've been Lea Panapro for a long time. And I still am. You still am. You still are. You still are. Andy Clay, Dean Morris. 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